Seems like fedora are going through a similar situation that led to the formation of the 'proctors' team in Gentoo. They were swiftly disbanded after a frankly idiotic intervention on the part of a Council member. At the moment the list is quite difficult again, thanks to the usual suspects, who can't take 'no' for an answer.
Sometimes I find it hard to believe that people can attach so much of their ego to one particular design, even when the obvious flaws are pointed out. As a wise man once said to me:
"There also comes a point where you realise that no one can know everything, so it's not a problem to ask someone or on occasion be wrong.."
Looking back at the last couple of years, I get the feeling that the move to allow 'devs' not to subscribe to the list was not a good idea. Yes those people no longer have to wade through tonnes of emails sniping and denigrating, and perhaps they feel less heated about things as a group, but it's meant they've been able to cop-out of fixing the issue, as well as leading to a loss of the community feel. Maybe that's not true, and I hope not. It just seems a shame that they've been driven from their mailing-list, instead of the problem being fixed.
As it is, we now have diktats on how Gentoo is going to move forward, dumped on the list from someone who got kicked from Gentoo and is no longer a developer, and has no real-world experience (and doesn't it show in some of those proposals.)
Extraordinary.
